Forget the fact that Rancid ever existed for a moment.Also forget that he hangs around with convicted pedophiles in the Sacro area. Then also forget the fact that he somehow got to produce most of the big bands in US Oi! in the early '00 and twisted their sounds so much that some bands actually put "NOT produced by Lars Fredricksen" with big letters on the back of their records. Lets forget that he ran the label Hellcat records that was supposed to stand up for real punk but all it did was distort it into some popalternative psychobillycrossculturecandycoated bullshit. Lets forget all that for a moment and be openminded to the guy.
I visited one of my favourite Swedish punkbloggs and heard the news some weeks ago but thought that it was a joke. Lars Fredricksen has now in his 40's turned skinhead and started his first Oi! band. I thought it might be ok since i actually kind of liked his first record with The bastards but then i heard the name...... The Old Firm Casuals!
I know what Lars thinks that to be a real skinhead you must be deep into the football scene but sit back Larsa and let me explain something for you.
Casuals has nothing to do with skinheads and skinheads has nothing to do with casuals. Mods probably has more to do with casuals i mean hell even Take That and Boyzone has more to do with casuals then the Oi! scene has or ever will have.
And if your going to use hooliganism into your bandname you should probably do some research about it before incorporating parts of actually existing firmnames from England into the name and on top of that use a symbol from another team in your logo (some people actually take this stuff seriously and have verry little to lose). I would actually like to invite Larsa and those other two toughguys to a match in England so they could see for themselfs that its not really as bad as it seems in those streetfightclips on youtube (where i guess the boys found their love for the sport in the first place) and if then later i could leave them with some cocesniffing knifestabbin cockneylad to show them what names are ok to use and what names will get you stomped no matter how many tattoo's you have on your face.
Its actually disgusting that a guy in his 40's with all that money and fame gets so caught up in something like European hooliganism that othervise only 14 year old Adidas/hoodie kids look up to.
And why the hell is Oi! the boat backing this crap up i actually like that label?
onsdag 16 februari 2011
Lars Fredriksen is the anti-christ.
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Lars fredriksen is a fucking impostor!
SvaraRaderaIts not fair to say that casuals have NOTHING to do with skinheads or oi! but larsy boy is still a fuckin retarded asshole.
SvaraRaderaI've heard from English lads that he actually goes to Millwall with Roi Pearce... Still a very strange move to go skinhead then he's in he's 40's.
SvaraRaderaI dont have no issue with anyone turning into anything but this just doesnt make sense. Why didnt he just shave off his mohawk and put on a shirt? He just got the whole "skinlook" over night. Dont forget that this is the Larsa that was one of the few punks still wearing them ugly squatter jackets waaaaay after they where ok. And in his 40's i mean come on he should have found himself when he was 30 atleast.
SvaraRaderaAnonymous:
I have gone to a whole lot of games when i have been to UK and i visit them frequently here in Sweden but i dont go around calling myself a casual or football hooligan for that.
When you have all that money, you can get face tattoos and pretend to be a skinhead when you're 40. He knows nothing of work and the working class.
SvaraRaderaA) The guys an asshole
SvaraRaderaB) Face tattoos are fucking lame
C) Suddenly becoming a skin at 40 is cringeworthy
E) Americans milking the hoolie/casual image is even more cringe worthy
...But i quite the music
Besides Lars, which I couldn't give a crap about. Can I ask what do you mean by "some popalternative psychobillycrossculturecandycoated bullshit". Anything wrong with psychobilly from your point of view? Or any relationship between psychobilly and real punk rock? (no pop-ish influence in both cases)
SvaraRaderaAnonymous NR3:
SvaraRaderaNothing wrong with psychobilly in its purest form but the stuff they put out in the genre isnt even psychobilly in my ears. Sure Tiger army is a good band but for someone like Lars who "burns so" for the Oi! scene they never cared about or signed no Oi! band to their label (except for that huge blunder with one of the guys from The bastards). Mainly what i wanted to get through was my discontent for the bands he signed when there was a whole bunch of "real" punk bands he never even gave a shot when he had the power to do so. Don't know if that came through to you.
Lars is a poser. That simple. The band name is proof of that. Who is his little 3-man firm banging with? week-end soccer moms? No one in the U.S. cares about "soccer" they way fans of football do around the rest of world, and the ones they say they do are hipster twats...
SvaraRaderaHmm.. so much hate for Lars here. I bet the only reason he's doing an Oi! band now is that it took him this long to find anyone else willing to play it. Oi! fans aren't exactly everywhere in California. I think it sounds good, the name is a little silly though.
SvaraRaderaOk thats it. The band has 1 song and has already done tons off photoshoots for magazines etc and on top of that they are now selling t-shirts. Its a Casual Merch empire at http://machetemfg.com/theoldfirmcasuals.aspx
SvaraRaderaMaybe they should start by releasing a demo before.
Bernardo, I'm going to buy you a shirt. No need to thank me, but what size would you like?
SvaraRaderaFrom what i have heard it is now open season on anyone wearing their t-shirts here in Sweden.
SvaraRaderau mad
SvaraRaderaAnonym:
SvaraRaderaU cunt
http://www.writers-network.com/avatars/YouMad.jpg
SvaraRaderaTell me whats so mad about the post?
SvaraRadera"From what i have heard it is now open season on anyone wearing their t-shirts here in Sweden."
SvaraRaderapretty sad that some lars fredrickson band is a major concern in your life
FAIL
Anonymous:
SvaraRaderaFirst of all you are anonymous, secondly you actually use words like fail in big letters.
What is really sad is people that cant tell a serious comment from an answer to a joke.
Since you take the time to come in to my site and tell me how sad it is that i put weight in someone elses life is what you would probably call an "epic fail".
(wonder why everyone is anonymous when they comment since facebook is alive and kicking)
Lars doesn't run Hellcat Records and he's 39.
SvaraRaderafirts of all. anonymous = wanker. simply as that.
SvaraRaderasecond. i like this song. sound is ok. lyrics remind me hard skin. name of the band reminds me hard skin. in general, it's seems to parody, but i am affraid it's not. so...
thirs. you have the point. what they have to do with casuals. what it has to do with glasgow derby game?
cheers
lukasz
Hey I was just reading your rant on the "old firm causals' or whatever they call themselves. I went on a short rant the other night cause I feel the same way. Well to be precise I think that Lars is a nut because he thinks he's going to be the savior of the so called oi movement or whatever he thinks this is. Like he's all king Skinhead now or some rubbish like that. He's got another coming and whats up with that 'Skunk" tattoo on his head??? It's non-sense. I'm calling a spade a spade I know he's doing this because he feels like there is no band out there that is good enough and he can hold down court over us, and even if that's not his intentions, he definitely will make us all look bad by getting a bunch of new breed cunts to follow his credo with that causal non-sense. Whatever I'll sort out that mess when it comes and hopefully I won't have to glass a bunch of un-proper fucks trying to run me thru. All I'm sayin' is these new blades that jump on the bandwagon because of this band better get in line with mobs like mine that been around forever and respect the bands new and the old that have been 'giving it their all' for a long time. Like I said he's got another coming if they ever play in my city. I'll make sure that dues are paid, by making sure other bands coming up get on the bill and such. ~Eric Scott -Wellington Arms/Brew and Honour
SvaraRaderaAlso to note: He also thinks 'Oi' music can be put into a science by recording whats he calls a 'low fi' recording. Pffft!!! Oi or whatever you wanna refer to it as...isn't a science and shouldn't even be restricted to a particular sound. Oi is an attitude for the 'Workin' class - the skinhead workin' class, by and for people like me and you - the people that have been here and have been living this way if life since our youth as it should be. I'm not going to slag off the guy completely but this is a world that he can't fully understand and never will. I'm sure all the posers (mexi-skinhead gangbangers) out in California will kiss his ass but 'skinhead reality' out here will hit him quick when he makes his move out East. Lesson 1 Lars: This aint punk and this aint Cali.
SvaraRaderaNot welcome in Chicago and not welcome in the dark forests of the middlelands of Sweden (like he would ever dare setting foot here in the first place, we got trolls & Jötunn here mufuckahs). To bad he will be greated with open arms in most parts of the West-coast though.
SvaraRaderaLMFAO @ dark forests of the middlelands of sweeden. Is that anywhere near Hobbiton or Rohan?
SvaraRaderaNo not really but we got halflings though
SvaraRaderais that what you call black people there?
SvaraRaderaHey Eric, how's the burger flipping business? I'll take a bacon cheeseburger with mayo lettuce and bbq sauce with some jalapenos on the side. bacon cheese dog plain and a medium drink.
SvaraRaderaHaha just as good as my other job. Brewandhonour@webs.com is my new link. That other blog page I made years ago and it hasn't been used since I made it back in 2008.
SvaraRadera"Like" Facebook style. Haha
SvaraRaderahttp://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Old-Firm-Casuals/185309981491105
SvaraRaderacheck out their facebook page. lars is rocking a totally new skin as fuck outfit in every picture, he musta spent hundreds, now thats punk.
hahahaha you are a fucking idiot for complaining that someone buys clothes and actually changes them. now thats punk.
SvaraRaderaWho cares? really, why does it even matter, dont buy the record. im not gonna loose sleep over it. stop being a bunch of girls.
SvaraRaderaits the fucking principal. i bet youd bitch and moan if a 14yr old decided one day he/she wanted to be a skinhead and then went out and bought hundreds of dollars worth of new skinhead outfits to look cool in, but if punk idol lars does it its cool
SvaraRaderaas far as the music goes, i think its pretty good and capturing the 80s oi sound has merit, but singing about shit like its been part of your life yet youve never experienced it is lame and fake. at least when the oi bands in the 80s sung about shit they were actually living it and not singing some fantasy. and thats what this band is, a fantasy made up to appeal to the pretentious lead by uberskin lars.
And lets not forget he played in Rancid..... in fucking RACIND kids come on!!!
SvaraRaderaThe guy could have stayed the way he was and dressed the way he dressed and started an Oi! band. Thats just one of my problems. The guy puts on a suit and thinks he will get accepted. Since when is Oi! or skinhead about wearing fashion items. I know a whole bunch of great Oi! bands that plays in baggypants and backwards caps and doesnt have a single tattoo. For me its all about code of conducts and the way you live your life with morals and selfrespect in a day-to-day life where selfrespect and morals get less and less important. This guy has no idea what that is all about from his mansion and i think thats why he dresses upp in designer clothes.
SvaraRaderaexactly you said it yourself, it doesn't matter how you dress. So stop tripping. You continue to contradict yourself. You say it doesn't matter how you dress then you criticize how he dresses. make up your mind. Not to mention, being a skinhead has ALWAYS been about how you look. ALWAYS. And "Casuals" have ALWAYS been about how they look. ALWAYS. Maybe you need to do your homework buddy.
SvaraRaderaIt doesnt matter how you dress thats just what makes this dressup barbie doll a fake. He changes dresscode after what sort of music he plays.
SvaraRaderaShow me how i contradict myself?
you say it doesn't matter how you dress but then you make fun of how he's a "dressup barbie doll fake". Thats a contradiction my friend.
SvaraRaderaWhat's funny is that you dont even realize that you are giving the band promotion by posting the youtube link and the link where to buy their shirts!!!! You're so fucking stupid I'm kind of embarrassed that I'm even responding to your dumb ass.
Word of advice to the guy making threats on the internet. Lars is DMS. I suggest you do not fuck with him. I am not DMS but I know those dudes fairly well, and if you fuck with one of them, you're not going to like the consequences.
SvaraRaderaI interviewed Lars about Old Firm Casuals for my forthcoming zine. If you don't know the dude personally, I suggest you hold off on making snap judgments about the guy. He's been supporting the Oi! scene for a long time; we were at a show together, hangin' out in '98. He's also tight with friends of mine that have been claiming skinhead a lot longer than we've been out of diapers - good enough for them, good enough for me.
SvaraRaderaEh DMS isnt that the wannabee gangster crew with the wigger Danny Diablo as one of their front men. Hahaha he is part of those guys. ey bernardo you gotta add this to your list.
SvaraRaderaScotty Violence:
SvaraRaderaThanks for not being anonymous like the rest. I have no love for the man whatsoever and hate the fact that the guy is now representing Oi!. Aint telling no one what they can and cant be just making it clear that his ignorance will not go by without a comment.
Anonymous:
I give all bands promotion and leave it up to people to buy their stuff or not. I state the obvious in the post but it seems that you and the rest of his streetteam are to blinded by friendship to see it.
I feel sorry for you for that a group called DMS that has members making videos and song about sniffing cocain and beating up women impress you so much. If Larsa is a "member" of this group then i think a lot of people could take a black eye from this tough guy just for the sake of putting him behind bars and out of the studio for a while.
If this is the DMS you talk about i feel sorry for you for making threats to people behind your computer screen about HC artists turned hipedihopers comming after them.
SvaraRaderahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL4dJQw5Qgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kxe7v2gGFY
Haha that first video made me laugh and cry at the same time. Tragic.
I think I've just realized that Bernando is probably 22 years old
SvaraRaderaNobody threatened Lars on this page but instead pointed out their assumptions that lean towards criticism, and that's what him and the band are going to have to deal with from here on out. Personally I don't know the guy nor his "oi points" he has earned or whatever you want to call them, but I do know for a fact that whatever he has done has been meaningless within the skinhead scene and it will remain that way. There is allot of people that are excited for this band, mainly Marxist and American soccer fans, none of which I care for, and then there is allot of people such as myself that are not impressed what-so-ever with it. Here is a few reasons why I am not impressed with him and the band: They are from Cali and his wanna be punk rock/skinhead scene has nothing to do with what I'm doing out here in the Chicago. Of course there are a few good guys out there but as far as the majority of the scene is concerned it's filled with Marxist, gangsta Mexi-skins and crazy meth head white power guys with no middle ground. It's disgusting and I hope they all fall into the ocean, well besides all the down skin-girls out there. My apology, but your men suck and you know this. Trust me! The old Firm Casuals are not going to bring you 'the boy of your dreams',but just more ugly, gangsta and un-skinhead like types. Reason 2: I have no problem with Americans being fans of soccer or supporting that sort of stuff, as soccer is an original world phenomenon, but you can't shave your head at 40 years old, start an oi band, claim yourself the voice of the 'skinheads and punks' then write lyrics towards the skinhead demographic, telling them to drop their look by dressing more causal, and to support a soccer team and fight on the 'pitch' as an American or former punk rock icon as he was only a year ago. It's fucking rude!!! Come on the guy has 'Skunks' tattooed on his head and that's just a sign right there that whatever scene he belongs to does not 'get it' because in the existence of the punk and skinhead scenes there has never been a proper crew with punk and skins in the same mob. We'll hang out with them but to be in the same mob is blasphemy. I've talked to over a dozen punk rockers and I've mentioned to them that Lars shaved up and every reply went as followed "What at 40 years old" "what a poser" Have fun with that". I could care less that he changed his style or his vision but what he's doing either on purpose or unintentionally is the point. It goes to say: There are people that like them or hate them, and it all depends on who you ask and where they are from. It's an us verse them mentality really:
SvaraRaderaIf you're a Skinhead, or 77-82 type punk rocker that spends time drinking in the back alley, smashing Marxist/antifa anarchist bastards, play in a rock 'n' roll band with such sounds as the Templars, Glory boys, Eater and the Pride, rock out to some Combat 84 then dance to some Two-tone/ska with some mega hot ladies, shag them, all along tearing it up at a house party, bar, or punk gig from noon till dawn then you HATE this band. Part one:
If you're into Marxism, nazi hunting, on direct action from closet reds, drinking in a pub cause it's the English thing to do, dancing to reggae night being retro, by shaking your white ass to ancient black music with no tail or beastly girls, playing in a band such as Pressure point or merciless boots,live in Japan, or attend American soccer matches while fighting some soccer mom on their 'pitch' then you love this band. It's that simple. All I'm saying is this; this band is a breeding ground for more P.C./Marxist ideals within our scene which may not be their intentions but that's how it is. The hardcore nazis left a long time ago so I can care less about them cause they aren't coming back. It's these closet reds that are still leaching onto our subculture that need to be seen as what they really are...the enemy of the skinhead and they will leach onto this band and make them their puppets against us. These people all make us look bad and on top of it all they are the majority that give us 'the real skins' a hard time about our pride and values by trying to put a strict agenda onto our subculture. Keep a good eye out and you'll see it. At first it's a Northern Soul (music) white fist patch, then it's a northern Guerrilla (Marxist) red fist patch to be incarnito. They move quick but were smarter then that now aint we? You're in a position to see it so let's stop it. ~Eric Scott
SvaraRaderaI like the sound. I like most things Lars has been a part of. I don't think he's trying to fool anyone in to thinking that he is a casual. I've been a skin for 15+ years. I'm not PC, not a sharp or antifa, not a 'marxist' (but Im not a racist, and not a fan of wp or rac and am not too fond of the notion that i'm a pc marxist because I realize that racism is lame or because i'm not far right wing- nonsense)... I've played in some skinhead rock n roll bands. I fit a lot of the things that you said should make me a person that hates this band- but I don't. I also don't think that being from california makes someone a fake skinhead or being from chicago makes you a real skinhead. I've hung out with skinheads in 30+ states (including cali and chicago) over the last 15 years or so and can tell you that there are both jerk offs and 'real' skinheads all over.
SvaraRaderaSome of the things being written on this band is ridiculous. The label on the record says "The Old Firm D.M.S.", so i'm assuming that 'the old firm' is something the dms guys call dms (no doubt with a bit of tongue in cheek or other type of tribute to the hooligans of the past).
Last... to my knowledge, this isn't lars first Oi! band and he's not new to the skinhead scene (believe he was first a skinhead nearly 30 years ago, as was his older brother).
I have hung out with 5000 skinheads in 100 countries and i STILL stay anonymous
SvaraRaderaLong story short I'm not going to worry about it cause it's old news and the guy and band can do whatever they like but I'm not going to be fan because I'm reading into it the way I see it. The band is gaining some big attention good and bad and that's just the order of things. Hey when I first heard about this band I was like that's weird,then didn't give it much thought until I was kicking it at a party and somebody brought them up in a good way and it just clicked in my head because as far as the world knows, Lars was a punk rock icon, with no skinhead background, that shaved up at 40 years old and that's just not cool but I could care less but I put my ear into the lyrics, and I wasn't impressed at all. I hear an ignorant ego coming thru and with over 3,000 'likes' on Facebook so far from the skinhead scene I'm sure it has been boosted it for maybe the worse. The way I see it he was a punk rock icon that faded in memory and for him, the skinhead transition is a re-birth for him, which is cool cause everybody needs an edge but lyrics don't lie. That song 'Causal' is clear as daylight. He's stating that he's here (at 40), he has a vison for skinhead and, him and the band are the leaders of it, and his 20 plus years of wearing studded leather jackets, CCCP t-shirts and rocking out a mohawk, doesn't put him in any position to jump outta of nowhere to tell us (the skinheads) that have been here 15 plus years also to do anything, let along by saying "lets go causal". Fuck not only hasn't he been a skinhead since whenever or ever, when was the last time he supported any of the skinhead bands or clubs past and current. When Crashed out and Crucial Change where on tour in Cali and Washington where was his support? When Haggis and the Glory boys came thru to America from Europe where was his support? Has he done anything to help out Pure Impact records or the Moloko Club? I see him supporting big acts such as the Slackers, street dogs and Aggrolites but they aren't skins...they play for skins and/or whoever will attend their gigs and the worst part is the beer at these concerts are 6 to eight dollars for a 12 ounce plastic cup that is never topped off right, not like it's his fault but that his league if any. I'll tell ya what since he can afford all this new gear that I'm seeing in these photos I'm sure he'll have no problem buying everybody 2 rounds of some top Belgian ale at the Glory Boys, Widowmakers, Agent Bulldog gig in Belgium on April 2nd. Just remember this is in writing and may be taken the wrong way so just letting you know there's nothing personal with Anonymous above this message. Just telling it like I see it and not trying to convince you of anything. There's allot of people on here that feel the way I do and I'm going to show my support cause I feel the same way. With that said I'm not going on with this topic anymore. I will see what this band does and doesn't and judge them on that from here on out ~Eric Scott
SvaraRaderaMe myself have no problem with people joining the ranks as long as they do it for a good reason. I dont care if the person was a cornfarming hippie or if he listened to techno, metal whatever a year ago. A good guy is a good guy and a prick is a prick. Lars being the second for a multitude of reasons and i dont care what "punkbadges" he has or who of you out there gave them to him.
SvaraRaderaBeing part of a scene for a long time doesnt make you real. The main reason why he stayed a punk for so long is because he doesnt have to face the struggle of the workingman in the first place. It's easy to tattoo skunx in your forehead if you know that you wont have to stand in the unemplyment line.
Fans of WELINGTON ARMS would love Lars new band. Heheheheehe
SvaraRaderaGeez Bernie, sounds like someone got a serious man crush!! You seem to think you know alot about a person you have never met, but maybe staring and studying someones picture long enough will make you a little crazy in love.
SvaraRaderaUnemployment line in Sweden??? Sweden provides some of the best benefits for its citizens and is one of the nicest, cleanest, richest, whitest, and most efficiently run countries in the world. What do you know about working class?? Doesn't seem like too many people in Sweden are struggling.
And Eric....you should watch who you're threatening, shit goes way deeper then you know. Payback is a bitch and chicago is alot closer then sweden.
Weekend At Bernies!!!!!
SvaraRaderaHahaha loove internet threats. Bring La coka nostra and the rest of the hiphopskins you run with. Oh and you are talking to the wrong guy about that whole working class shit but sorry anyway for living in a prosperous country that actually made something out of nothing while the weak emigrated.
SvaraRaderaI actualy like LA COKA NOSTRA, good hip hop.
SvaraRaderai tried putting the transformation of lars 2 the side and put my focus on the music sound, and i gotta say that its not good at all. The bastards is a much better band, he shoulda just play those songs with the bastards and didnt have 2 make a new band. Every1 that is supporting the band are probably either friends or bands who are just trying 2 get fame from them. The worst part is that all these punk bands with old musicians are starting 2 transform 2 skins and trying 2 attract the subculture aswell. hahaha, they should prob delete there pix when they were playing live as punks and decided 2 be skins at the most recent shows. Just cause u are a skin it doesnt mean im like your band. It has 2 sound good 2. I miss bands like THE EJECTED, punky herberts that played great Oi!!!
Payback is a bitch but ambush is a motherfucker Etc Etc haha I know all to well so it's all cool, I have no worries and I'm not anonymous on here when leaving comments by using a signature at the end. I'm very, very easy to find if you ask the right people, however I never threatened the guy unless you're referring to the 'Dues will be paid' part which could be taken a few different ways such as what you may have been thinking such as money? Naw, I meant dues will be paid by talking to the guy, figuring out where he stands, and letting him know that if he's going to play in this city then his band should take the initiative to also book one of our younger Chicago bands that exist at the moment along with his. Smart move considering no punks or skins that kick it with me from Chicago would come anyways. His audience would be all from Indiana or something. It's that simple. I could care-less about that band giging here and I'm pretty sure that all the dummies from the surrounding area will show up for it. If anybody is offended by anything that i said then I'm okay with that also. I didn't mention anybodies names besides Lars, or anything directed towards him unless it was about that stupid tattoo on his head (who could argue) but rather my opinion of his song writing, subculture politics, and the effect that may result from it. If you're referring to me saying something about California, well my statement is like if somebody from Cali was talking about Chicago; They would say 'fuck Chicago,it's full of crazy black Nazis,murderers, communist Mexicans, suburbanites, nazi punks, and crazy white kids known as CMS. If people can't understand my message proper it's either cause they can't read or I can't write. How bout we make this a bit easier then. whoever you are: If you want to embrace Lars and hail him as some skinhead god, when only a year or two ago he was wearing a studded jacket, CCCP shirt while sporting a mohawk, then we are not friends. If you want to give this guy and band a chance by supporting a decent band by your standards, and care less about the skinhead street politics, then were cool but you'll never be mobbed up with me, but we will associate. If you can see things the way me, Bernando and other supporters see it then you rock.
SvaraRaderaHaha I love this blog cause even thou Bernando is crude with his reviews, he's honest and calls it the way he sees it, which is the most honest thing that somebody could do. It's rare and I appreciate it. I've given criticism and taken it in as well, which all in all helps out a person. ~Eric Scott
Staring at a photo and judging them on it is the same as studying a fact book on Sweden and judging their character based on it also.
SvaraRaderaJust so you know swedens social welfare is built the same way as englands basicly. But maybe its just poor, dirty and failed nations like somalia, irak and.... the usa that can count themselfs of having a real workingclass.
SvaraRaderaBeing a skinhead is to make you proud of the way life is. Skinhead is not about what you wear and what music I hear and who you play.
SvaraRaderaSkinhead in the past about sharing more fun with your friends, on many occasions. Field, the dance floor. and streets.
What makes the skinhead look silly now is how many other things which affect it. About politics, about music, about color, about the football club, about this and about that ...
And about hatred, hatred of other people who may not unsightly in the eyes of us. And it would be ridiculous when we talk like women who say to other women just because she's prettier or worse.
About Lars? If you do not like their music, do not buy his album. If you do not like them, pretend they never existed.
And about Skinheads? That's very, very much larger and more cool and discussed rather than discuss Lars.
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Dont understand much from the broken english but are you sayin that you think Lars is pretty?
SvaraRaderaAmerican skinhead scene = the biggest joke ever!
SvaraRaderaHm. What are you doing on a site about it then?
SvaraRaderaI understand your point though and most of my friends share it since all these new vatoslocos bands has popped up lately on the westcoast and not forgetin the "skinhead crews" around the eastcoast that is made up of cocainsniffin rappers and oldtime hc singers but if you browse through my site and check out some of the bands i think you would change your point.
Many great bands just like in the 80's and 90's are still going hard and releasing true and honest Oi.
Judging the whole US scene cause of Lars Fredricksen is like judging the whole European scene cause of The Towerblocks.
To say that what side you lean on determines whether you like this band or not is stupid.
SvaraRaderasame with saying your politics makes you how skinhead you are.
ive had encounters with a certain person commenting this blog and ive heard stories from close friends and can determine hes no skinhead poster boy, unless making fun of lone teenage girls minding their own business or throwing beer bottles at a gay couple walking down the street is oi
you people make me laugh. Shit talkers = jealousy. nuff said. and Eric Scott, watch your back cuz' now we know your name
SvaraRaderaNot all hispanic or westcoast skinheads like um. I for one think musics music, and his musics crap.
SvaraRaderaI agree that the whole "Lars is suddenly a skinhead" thing is pretty corny. That being said ...
SvaraRaderaAside from the Lars thing, DMS is a crew that came out of the mid-80's New York hardcore scene and originally stood for Doc Marten Skins. Being from NYC, many of it's members are of varying ethnicities and being such an urban center, it wasn't strange for street kids who listened to punk and hardcore to also be into hip hop.
Yes, many of it's members nowadays venture into, or are from, the hip hop world, and some do both, but it's a crew with it's roots planted firmly in hardcore, punk and (American) skinhead culture and I assure you, they are not to be taken lightly—some of the guys being specific mocked in these comments are complete and total psychopaths.
And yes, they travel to Sweden.
If they travel to Sweden cause someone there dont like their crew they are not only psychopats but also extremly childish and probably unemployed. But if they ever come i will be sure to watch out for these badasses
SvaraRaderaThey come to Sweden because their bands tour the world—maybe you have heard of Agnostic Front, Madball, Skarhead, Crown of Thornz, Icepick, Hatebreed, etc. Also, one of the guys in one of those videos you're laughing at has lived in Sweden and has family there.
SvaraRaderaThey wouldn't hunt anyone down because someone "dont like their crew," but they might take the time to pay someone a visit if someone went out of their way to post videos of them making fun of them and talking about what a joke they were. People like that are generally very willing to go out of their way to react to what they see as disrespect to them or their crew.
Criticizing their music is one thing, but if you start to make it too personal, they might too.
If they are a joke they need to accept it. Basicly i am scarred shitless right now.
SvaraRaderaWhats the guys name if i might ask? The one living in Sweden right now?
Cant these people stand up for themselfs, why are so many kids makin threats on their behalf.
SvaraRaderaI'm not suggesting you be scared shitless. All I'm suggesting is you not say anything on this blog that you wouldn't be prepared to say in person.
SvaraRaderaIf you are so powerful and dangerous a person that you would walk up to them and call them a "joke" to their faces and tell them to "bring it," then you should have no problems if you ever come face to face with these fine, upstanding citizens.
I haven't threatened Bernando at all.
SvaraRaderaDMS doesn't hang out on the internet reading blogs like I do, but if they DID this thread, or someone brought it to their attention, and had a problem with Bernando, they wouldn't bother talking about it here.
It's none of my business either way, I'm just looking out for his best interests—the whole "Don't Let Your Mouth Write A Check That Your Ass Can't Cash" thing—because I like his blog.
it really fucking does matters how you dress if you a skinhead, that s the skinhead style ben sherman shirts the levis jeans dr martens boots fred perry shirts tonic suits...you can dress in baggy trousers baseball cap white t shirts or
SvaraRaderawhatever clothz you feel comfy you can play oi music because you working class but it does not make you a fucking skinhead,
skinhead is a skinhead because how he dress and his look...leave this stupid hippy shit dress as you like american bullshit...
skinheads are fucking fashion orientated people they were buying their clothz from the carnaby street over here in england they weared taylor made suits and aint bought them from a flipping charity shop...that is punk! not skinhead!skinhead is a traditionally dressed smart looking working class young man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd_GcDz7UQc
Right.. Lars is 39, he has skunx tattooed on his head not skunks, isnt that the name of a tattoo shop he owns? The old firm is the name given to Rangers and Celtic and has got fuck all to do with English football or English hoolies. I prefer the Bastards and I like a lot of Rancids stuff. Good luck to the guy!
SvaraRaderaThis discussion is much of a storm in a tea cup, if you ask me. To me, Lars music has always been made for fresh cuts (fuck all wrong in that too!) and then they start exploring real subcultural music. Back when I started as a punk, I listened to Pistols, Nina hagen and the Exploited and thought myself a real punk. Then I discovered oi! & hardcore. Give the kids who are impressed with Lars some time and they will discover real bands like the Templars, Youthful Offenders and Forced Reality (this is a yank blog after all) and some of them will start their own bands and some of those bands will be the business!
SvaraRaderaDMS vs. The Old Firm hoolies. News at 11.
SvaraRaderaBlah blah blah . . . the issue here isn't what he's wearing, but WHY he's wearing it. A lot of you guys in these comments, even by MY standards, sound gay as hell babbling about fashion. G.A.S.H. doesn't care if you dress like a skinhead or not, because if we kidnap any of you fashion skins and take you to the annual "G.A.S.H. Bash" (November 28th!) where you'll bet the "main attraction" and the UNWILLING object of our depraved desires, fashion will be the least of your worries.
SvaraRaderaPounder "Porkspin" Pete
Gay Aryan Skinheads (G.AS.H.) Worldwide
I would rather welcome a whole army of sexually hostile G.A.S.H. skins over the DMS crew any day hehe
SvaraRaderaGay. Lars Fredericksen could give a fuck what you douchebags think. He's playing music he likes, tours the world and knows whats up.. He's not some kid who showed up outta nowhere playing music.. dude has been around from the get-go. He always showed mad love to the NYHC scene and California Punk/Hardcore scene.. Nothing NO ONE on this blog says will ever change that..
SvaraRaderaFuckenLes.
His new bands music has nothing 2 do with where he is at now. He is touring all over because of Rancid (that's why on every flyer they put OFC "lars of rancid") and Brassknuckle Boys are opening up for Old Firm Casuals? What a joke. OFC should open up for Brassknuckle Boys, cause they are way better and because they have been playing for a longer time. It bugs me that OFC a band that just came out is Headlining shows, especialy when a real OLDSKOOL oi band is opening up for them. The west coast is trippin balls!
SvaraRaderaahahah! U Mad?
SvaraRaderaAll these comments about DMS pretty much sum up why no one in their right mind would take this band seriously. What did they ever do to earn a reputation other than beating some gay bloke to death in the 80s? You bunch of fucking weirdos.
SvaraRaderaGlad to find somebody out there who agrees with me- I also wrote a little about this piece of shit project. Casuals my arse. Check it out:
SvaraRaderahttp://sebspeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/not-so-firm-casuals.html
You should be listening to the new OFF! album not talking about Lars!
SvaraRaderaWho are the OFF?
Raderahe is either a crypto-jew (they will adopt to or infiltrate anything in order to control it or profit from it.
SvaraRaderaOR
he is having a midlife crisis.
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Dont be surprised if Lars starts an RAC band next, after all they guy was brought up on Skrewdriver as his song 'Campbell CA' illustrates.
SvaraRadera"Dont understand much from the broken english but are you sayin that you think Lars is pretty?"
SvaraRaderaHAHAHAHAHA I just pissed myself. Lars is a fashion swinging joke. I remember when he dressed like a biker for a while. Now he has to go skinhead and start an oi! band at 40. Now I see a new generation of 15 year old kids picking up the skinhead fashion where you can witness them at your local shopping mall eating ice cream and waiting for their parents to pick up in their family minivan and ask them "did you kids have a good time?". Hot Topic would start stocking boots, braces, fred perrys, ect ect.
How long will his skinhead stage last? I await for Lars' solo rap album
FUCK DMS! bunch of nig nog faggots. Had a run in with them, and as soon as they saw we had even numbers, they ran like bitches.
SvaraRaderaI don't hate Lars as much as Skinhead Rob. What a wigger joke
SvaraRaderaIt could be worse. At least they're not a good band.
SvaraRaderaoutside the facts i don't give a fuck about Lars and i don't really like Rancid...There's a problem a 40's old guy start a band..i means i'm 30 myself and i played in a Hardcore band, i'm too old to play music...maybe i never think music is about how old are you, but what inside your heart and how you dedicated to your things!!!
SvaraRaderaYour grammar makes me uncertain what your views are. Do you have a problem with Lars being to old or do you think people should get of his back because of his old age?
RaderaI don't have a problem with Lars age...I don't think age is a problem when you're truly dedicated to the thing you doing...But people should get of his back because of his old age? this is not a valid arguement for me.How many bands like The Oppressed or The Business are in their 50's and still playing oi!.Just judging him for the thing they do, not for their age!I just wanna know it's there a age you suppose to stop to listen to oi music? Sorry but not in my book this is not a NBA carrer.if you still there since day one NO ONE can't telling you you're too old to do this shit! Anyway maybe it's me are not really understand what trying you said. But if you said age is a requirements to played a certains style of music,maybe all the 80's oi and punk bands still there today,need to stop playing right now!
SvaraRaderaNever claimed there is an agelimit to Oi! and would never do it mainly because i would be hypocritical (i am old myself).
RaderaI guess what many people are annoyed by is the fact that he went from punk to gutterpunk to biker and then turned skinhead in his mid 40's.
AHHHH!!!it's a better explanation maybe this is what i want to hear...Judging a man for what he's doing not how old is he and Lars is a fucking poseur and this is not matter how old is he, is still a poseur..anyway great Blog
SvaraRaderaTake away Lars' ever changing fashion sense and take away the band name, then ask yourself.. Do you like the music? If yes, support it, if not then don't fucking listen to it. I could give 2 shits and a fuck what tats the guy has on his face or what he wears, I like the songs he writes, I think he makes great music. You labeled skins have more rules and regulations than the fucking bible.
SvaraRaderaThats one way to look at it. Another one is to look at the culture and music one loves then add an old MTV-punk currently going through some 45-years crisis shaving his head, buying a completly new wardrobe and claiming something that nobody believs in. Then on top of that add a horseload of bad music that just because most old fucks in the scene have no backbone then gets an actual chance of "taking over" when there is a ton of actually good bands out there NOT getting a chance because they don't have a known face. Thats when shit becomes personal not mainly against Lars (he is just one guy after all) but more towards the latests pussyfication of the scene made by people we once trusted.
RaderaWanna know what i mean by pussyfication then take a listen to either the "Spirit of Oi!" compilatio or the "Backstreets of American Oi!" compilation and then compare it to this years "United we stand" compilation. The majority of the scene does not represent the actuall scene any more.... and thats what worries me.